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        <![CDATA[ Even though these are meaningless until signing day/players declare/etc., I&#39;m tired of reading this bored every few days and seeing the front page filled
with preseason top 25s.

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Fox Sports: 10

Rivals: 11

Parrish: 12

Katz: 15

CNNSI: 16


Discuss.


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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: **Preseason rankings chatter**  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with Duck on the Purdue point. 3-7 or 4-6 sounds about right. Purdue will be tough next year as long as Hummel recovers without complication. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I hate Purdue and IU. So what?
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Purdue and Butler will be very good next year and all year the fans of the two schools will be telling each other why one is better and blah blah blah. Bottom
line, if they played we could put all this to rest. Good news is that both have a chance to make a deep run next year. Who is better h2h? We will never know
unfortunately, unless we get to meet in the dance.
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Bottom line, even though I hate getting older, next season can&#39;t get here... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ We were clearly the favorite and were expected to win. We did what we were supposed to do and win against a sub-par Purdue team.
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Maybe the favorite in your eyes, but Butler was the underdog in Vegas--fact. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I wonder what the line was on that game since we were clearly the favorite? Since you&#39;re so good at looking stuff up maybe you could find that info. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ TheEnforcer13, you must be somewhat new to the program, so I&#39;ll give you a little break here (I could really ridicule you, but I&#39;ll just lay it out:
<br>
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- The year prior to the Butler vs. Purdue game (@Purdue) in 2001-02, the respective teams did the following:
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<span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">BUTLER</span>
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  <li>24-8 Record, Won Horizon League and Horizon League Tournament, #10 Seed NCAA Tournament (beat #7 Seed Wake Forest 79-63... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It applies because I bet you thought Butler would lose that game, and that Purdue had a &quot;better roster&quot;. Honestly anything could happen in a 10 game
series... I would love to see a Butler-Purdue game in the Wooden next year. I just think 3-7 is a little harsh that&#39;s all. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">TheEnforcer13 wrote:</strong>
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  I didn&#39;t see any name calling this time but 3-7? I&#39;m assuming each team would get 5 home games. Purdue may have a &quot;better roster&quot; but ask
  them how that worked out the last 2 times they played Butler. Both games were away from Hinkle too. Butler has a home record of 125-17 since 99/00... with
  many of those losses coming to Horizon foes.
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When we beat Purdue @Mackey in... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Duck, point out where I said Purdue would beat Butler in a heads up match up. I don&#39;t know who would win in a match up H2H and I don&#39;t think that will
be able to be answered for another 9 months.
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If you paid attention to any of my posts throughout the year I think you would see that I am less of a homer than most people on this site. I said that Butler
is more likely to MAKE A RUN in March one of the next 2 years. I also never said anything about Butler&#39;s ranking. I said... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I didn&#39;t see any name calling this time but 3-7? I&#39;m assuming each team would get 5 home games. Purdue may have a &quot;better roster&quot; but ask
them how that worked out the last 2 times they played Butler. Both games were away from Hinkle too. Butler has a home record of 125-17 since 99/00... with many
of those losses coming to Horizon foes. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Staxawax: Simple Question - If a UWGB fan came on here and claimed they had a better roster than Butler, would you identify that as &quot;crazy&quot;? I would.
That&#39;s a comparable analysis - Purdue:Butler, Butler:UW-Green Bay.  Neither is even close to comparable.  We have our years where we&#39;re better than
Purdue, yes, but over 20 years Purdue is vastly superior in performance, players advancing to the next level, program funding, prestige, etc.  Its reality.
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riksmits4prez... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ You called him crazy. Not so bad, I admit. But, that is your mode of operation. This is a message board of opinions. Simply disagreeing and why you disagree
would gain you more respect....... although, before you say it, I&#39;m sure respect is not what you&#39;re seeking. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Who called a name? Show me.
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Simply put, Purdue will be a top five team next year and as soon as we lose our 2nd game, we&#39;re out of that discussion; and when we lose on the road to a
sub-par Horizon League team, we&#39;re out of the #1-4 seed discussion and we&#39;ll be hoping for a #5.  This is the life of a Mid-Major unfortunately.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Just one question Duck........ Is he not allowed to state his opinion without the name calling that inevitably follows on your part? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">riksmits4prez wrote:</strong>
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  Stax I&#39;ll agree about your Butler comment. I think Butler has just as good of a chance in 2 years as either program, and I would even put them ahead of
  Purdue. Hayward will be (if not already) a better player than Hummel. While I would rather take Johnson than Howard, I think the rest of Butler&#39;s team is
  better than Purdue&#39;s in terms of making a run in March.
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  As far as IU, I know... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Stax I&#39;ll agree about your Butler comment. I think Butler has just as good of a chance in 2 years as either program, and I would even put them ahead of
Purdue. Hayward will be (if not already) a better player than Hummel. While I would rather take Johnson than Howard, I think the rest of Butler&#39;s team is
better than Purdue&#39;s in terms of making a run in March.
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As far as IU, I know everyone on here hates them, but I&#39;m certainly interested in how IU fares the next 2... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ At first I thought the same, but then he said guys who think about Illinois, Mich st, Indiana...so I am confused as well. What I figured was he was mentioning
the big ten as twelve seeing that logic would be to have 12 teams in a conference vs. 11. Maybe I was wrong...witheto?? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Willis, I think he actually meant The Big 12........Kansas, Mizzou, etc. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Big Twelve huh? Who do you think they will get as the 12th team? Whoever they should do it fast because having 11 teams is pretty much stupid.
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But I am with you, as the rankings come out next fall, it will be a nice bullet in Butler&#39;s gun to be able to say they are a perennial top 25 team to these
kids looking to play at a high level. Especially if they can keep the schedule as good as this year&#39;s (09-10) will be. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Staxawax wrote:</strong>
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  witheto.......... not meant to be a smart *ss question, but wouldn&#39;t a recruit have to be pretty naive not to already know the recent success and ranking
  of Butler basketball?
</blockquote>I am more so thinking about the guys living in Big Twelve country who only care about the Illinois&#39;, Indiana&#39;s, Michigan State&#39;s,
etc...  Some of these guys probably have heard of Butler but if you were to ask... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ OK, I&#39;ll throw in my 2 cents worth.........
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As for Purdue, they certainly are talented enough to beat most teams they will play.  But, much like Butler&#39;s MO..... they rely way too much on outside
shooting and one inside presence.  Johnson can&#39;t do it all, and the guards really don&#39;t penetrate that well.  As badly as UConn played against them
this year in the tourney, the guards were clearly intimidated by Thabeet (yeah, I know, he&#39;s 7&#39;3&quot;) and they... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Even though these are meaningless until signing day/players declare/etc., I&#39;m tired of reading this bored every few days and seeing the front page filled
with preseason top 25s.
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One thread, for easy discussion.
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<a title="Fox Sports" target="_blank" href="http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/9437048/Preseason-forecast:-College-hoops-top-25">Fox Sports</a>: 10
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<a title="Rivals" target="_blank" href="http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=933183%20">Rivals</a>:... ]]></description>

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