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When I came onto this site to respond in this thread originally my initial response was condescending. I'll give you that. I will come to the defense of my team when some idiot suggests that Derrick Brown is a hot head. I'll comment on how it might not be such a good idea to extrapolate what Butler needs to do to beat Xavier by watching Xavier's annual war against UC in the Crosstown Shootout.

I believe that Xavier's program is on a different level than Butler's program and virtually everyone outside of Butler, and perhaps a few objective Butler fans will agree with me. However, I do respect Butler's program. Yet some of you guys make yourselves look small by some of the stuff you post here:

The "great blowout game" against Xavier. -- Congratulations. You did have a great game that day. Fact: Xavier leads the series 28 - 14. More importantly, I think X has beaten Butler for at least 6 straight of the last games we've played.

"Xavier is a bunch of thugs." -- This is where you really make yourselves look stupid. Butler and Xavier are similar in regards to their emphasis on the student-athlete. Xavier has graduated every senior since 1986 or something to that effect. Xavier holds one of the highest consistent graduation rates in the nation. There is a culture at Xavier that emphasis winning, receiving your degree and representing the University with class. Even in the heat of battle, immediately following the battle, Derrick Brown's first comments were about his regret in how he represented Xavier during the Shootout. On the one hand, he didn't back down to UC's tactics. On the other, he should have kept his mouth shut and walked to the charity stripe for his FTs. Otherwise, his first public thought was how he had represented his University. That is a product of Xavier's tradition, which has nothing to do with thuggery.

"Their fans try to act high and mighty and holier than thou...........most uneducated basketball fans I have ever seen." -- Yeah, we don' know nothin. We've only been going to the NCAA Tournament consistently for over two decades now and are one of nine teams with two E8s in the last five years, and we average 10k in attendance at our place. But we haven't picked up much knowledge of the game yet. Yeah, right.

"Every call against them is wrong and a hose job and every loss is the refs fault." -- To dumb to comment on.

"XUDASH talked of us being jealous of them but jealously is what they have displayed for the UC Bearcats..." -- Please check Xavier's record against UC - we have won the last 9 out of 13 against them. It has become a rivalry game that we expect to win regardless of where it is played. UC made a point to try to intimidate Xavier in its efforts to make a comeback this year. Six technicals and a head but later (come on; you guys had to love that move by Frease against Yates) and UC went to its home locker room with a 10 point loss. We have nothing to be jealous about when it comes to UC, save for media coverage (you understand that) which will never change as far as the local print media is concerned because of the numbers. We get adequate coverage from the local paper, but we receive more press nationally now so it doesn't matter.

"We pose a threat to them now since we are starting to get the good recruits." -- Are you suggesting that Butler is outrecruiting Xavier? Congratulations on getting Matt; he is a fine player and a great person. But are you suggesting that Butler is outrecruiting Xavier overall?

"...and it is they who are growing jealous of anyone in the tristate area that has success." -- Were 7th in the nation in both polls; who are we supposed to be jealous of nationally, let alone regionally? We play in one of the finest on campus arenas in the nation. Were regarded as one of the top programs in the nation. I guess I'm not clear on how you process information to arrive at some of your conclusions.

"These people think they went to a better conference than the MCC but if you look at the A 10, it is a glorified MCC with a new name--half of the A 10 was in the MCC." -- I can't help you here. I believe your statement speaks for itself.

"When Matta left ..........X for OSU, they called him everything from a liar to a traitor." -- Matta went to a podium on Victory Parkway and adamantly stated he was staying at Xavier, then a Columbus network affiliate caught him on video walking into a meeting with the Buckeye's AD later that same day to seal his deal with Ohio State. It was HOW he left X that ruined his reputation at Xavier, not the fact that he left Xavier for more money and a bigger job. Even with all that, some of the Xavier faithful have gotten over it by the E8 run that was achieved in his final year.

"I hope we not only show them how real men act on the court and in the stands, but also kick their *ss in the process." -- Butler has nothing to offer Xavier about demonstrating how real men act on the court and in the stands. Talk about arrogance. Otherwise, Butler will have its chance at kicking our behinds. If you can't find a way to get open and be hot on the perimeter - and I doubt you'll get open much against this defense - your gentlemen will not be doing to much kicking, except for the chairs that they may kick on their bench, which they would never do because that just isn't the Butler way.

JRSmith122 wrote:

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I agree with you IHX about the profile fitting the typical student. Unfortunately we have had a couple of examples of this ourselves--Rylan and James Parker to name a few. But there is no doubt we are better than most universities. The thing I find funny is that Xavier--a Jesuit school--is not quite the school is proclaims to be.

Why is that? Because that is your opinion?

I'll net out a response to the balance of your responses. Let's see, we'll go down the road of Butler as "holier than thou' where the Butler men are clean and never, ever get in trouble, nor do they drink and attend parties. That would not be the Butler way. Butler men sip tea and play board games and Hearts during their free time. They attend church before every practice.

Finn: he did not steal anything; he owned the dog. Damn your dumb. If you want to bring that up, you really should get your facts straight before posting. You made yourself look like an idiot. What he did in 2007 was his business, unless you want to suggest that every university is responsible for the free will of each of its graduates.

Lavendar made a huge mistake. He regretted it. That incident was dropped with no covert efforts to bury anything.

If you want to start making statements about Xavier basketball players being thugs, etc. and Xavier having three point guards that got into trouble in succession, I assure you that you just might start reading about crap thrown against the wall about Butler. It benefits you that Butler is so small in all this that no one will care.