How about NCAA basketball? (more popular than the NBA). Although not as internationally appealing as the NBA.
U-19 World Basketball Championship
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Posts: 1823 (07/07/09 09:40 AM) |
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Posts: 4311 (07/07/09 09:44 AM) |
I'm sure Duck will point out he said "professional league" Nil, but, if the NCAA adopted some of these rules, would the NBA not be far behind?
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Posts: 3534 (07/07/09 09:51 AM) |
Duck's right. The NBA isn't going to drastically alter their product by adapting to someone else's rules. There has always been a 3 point line,
right?
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Posts: 1935 (07/07/09 10:19 AM) |
Westfield Gutshot wrote: Which foreign league was the 3-point line adopted from? I was unaware that the origin of the 3-point line - Tiffin, Ohio - was a foreign country. I guess you learn something new every day! |
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Posts: 1936 (07/07/09 10:23 AM) |
NilDogg wrote: We are talking professional level as Stax mentioned, so the NCAA doesn't work. Even if it did, the two can't draw a similar comparison, as you're dealing with professional vs. amateur, uneven sample size (30 NBA teams vs. 343 NCAA Division 1 teams), not to mention the relevance of our college game on the International level (virtually zero) vs. the massively popular global NBA appeal. Domestically, you might have an argument for college basketball vs. the NBA during the month of March specifically; however, outside of that month, and only on a domestic level, the NBA wins every time. Pick whichever criteria you want - attendance, television ratings and/or contracts, merchandise sales, etc. The NBA wins all). |
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Posts: 4312 (07/07/09 10:25 AM) |
Basketball is a universal sport with minor rules changes around the world. Which foreign league was the designated hitter adopted from?
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Posts: 3535 (07/07/09 10:33 AM) |
Duck on a Rock wrote: some people do learn something new every day, some people remain the same... |
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NilDogg |
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Posts: 1824 (07/07/09 10:42 AM) |
not to mention the relevance of our college game on the International level (virtually zero)
I don't know, I think you could say it has some influence/relevance on the international level, considering a good number of 4 year seniors graduate and end up playing in a pro-league somewhere internationally. I do think you'd find that there are more NCAA fans out there (yes, due to the large number of teams), and while at a peak in March, you have loyal fans due to their affiliations with the university. I think the "brand loyalty" is greater with NCAA than the NBA, which should be something to consider. I don't know if you could measure merchandise sales though, because there are alot of people who buy college apparrel, and not necessarially the team's sport specific gear, to support the team. If you took sales from the entire university, I think you could show a greater amount of sales, but who knows? I see your point, but I don't think its as cut and dry. |
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Posts: 980 (07/07/09 10:50 AM) |
No one said the 3-point line was international, just that it was someone else's rule. Read and re-read, it will help you avoid these careless mistakes.
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Posts: 1937 (07/07/09 10:58 AM) |
rhosigkick wrote: You again - another member of the nonsense crew. Click to the previous page - Westfield's response was following a post about adopting International basketball rules, so yes, when he cited the 3-point line, naturally inference is that he was producing a counter to my previous post. Read and re-read. |
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Posts: 4313 (07/07/09 11:03 AM) |
Why don't you post your "nonsense" crew, so they/we can work on these senseless mistakes?
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Posts: 913 (07/07/09 11:29 AM) |
Wow, this spun out of control. I would say "why wouldn't the NBA move towards international rules?" Because it is the NBA, an American formed
professional league built and developed in the United States which happens to be the country that invented the game of basketball. There is no reason to let
the international game influence the rules of the NBA because the NBA is the end all be all of basketball in this world. You have various leagues all over the
world and in this country, but the most dominant one with the best players is the NBA. I think it is simple as that.
Now, to the game, nice win by the USA again. These guys are rolling and it is very impressive how this team plays together after only a couple weeks of practice/tryouts. I am glad our guys are doing their part. Sounds like they are playing solid every game and I can't wait to see them in action for the dawgs this coming season. |
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Posts: 1291 (07/07/09 11:32 AM) |
It's great to see another post, this one about the U-19 World Championship and, more specifically, about two Butler players, be kidnapped by grown men, at
least in physical years, and turned into another spitting contest.
Someone on here talked about some things remain the same. Just for a change of pace, switch hands!
Your Signature ... "We like to call it inter species erotica."
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Posts: 971 (07/07/09 12:10 PM) |
Nil. Your input is always great, but I think you underestimate the influence of our college game. Here's why:
1. These Under 19 and other Unders are being showcased to get college scholarships to U. S. teams. The announcers for the Argentina versus Australia game went on and on about top players either playing in the U. S. or wanting to get a U. S. scholarship, 2. The best route to the NBA is through the U.S. college system. The style is most similar to the NBA. And U.S. college basketball is the most visible to pro scouts, and because 3. I said so.
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Posts: 972 (07/07/09 12:20 PM) |
PDT1242. Great to see you back!
Now some are going to say my post is not relevant to this area of the forum, but I will make a convincing argument. Be patient. PDT, since you are a country boy I am going to pose this question to you. How many acres are there to a hectare? Now, now, some will say this post doesn't belong, but here's my argument. I was watching a live game yesterday from New Zealand and the announcer made reference to a hectare. He referenced the arena and parking area by size. Since we are talking about converting / adapting International ball to NBA ball we are going to need the translation / interpretation of certain metrics like the lane and the three point line and the length of the floor and so on. So, again PDT, how many acres to a hectare? (The guy had an Aussie accent... I hope he didn't say there are 17 "hecklers" in and around the arena...)
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Posts: 4314 (07/07/09 12:37 PM) |
IHX, you are amazing.
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Posts: 1939 (07/07/09 12:40 PM) |
1 hectare = 2.4710439 U.S. survey acres. Hectares are the global term used to measure land; the USA and Canada happen use our own form of measurement - the
acre.
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Posts: 1292 (07/07/09 01:23 PM) |
My dear IHX, out here we measure land by sections. One section equals approximately a mile square or 640 acres or 258.99881088 heck tars (give or take a
prairie dog mound). I own approximately 9.3887068944 hectares. ( I wonder if I could fit Hinkle on my property.) But don't go calling no one out here no
heck tar or you might be run out of town with some feathers on your heck tar.
I was/am hoping we can get some serious discussion on how well our representatives are playing in this world wide arena( How many hectares in that?) and what a positive light this will cast on the program and the school. As one of the kings of digression, I ask that we please stick to the topic as much as humanly possible
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Posts: 914 (07/07/09 01:29 PM) |
What I think is great is that in the national releases you read regarding results of the game, Butler's name always is mentioned because BUTLER'S
Gordon Hayward lead the team in rebounds or BUTLER'S Shelvin Mack lead the team in assists. I don't know how closely this event is followed if at all
by the casual sports fan, but I have seen articles about results under the college basketball sections of sites such as cbssports.com that have little write
ups. This will be another boost to Butler's national reputation when people see that two of our own are helping lead the USA in a world championship.
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Posts: 3536 (07/07/09 01:45 PM) |
Question: A few years ago the NBA changed their rule for defense, specifically you don't have to only play man to man. What prompted that change? |
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