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2010 NBA Mock Draft - Gordon Hayward #16 |
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Posts: 1730 (06/29/09 05:58 PM) |
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/9742454/Early-2010-NBA-mock-draft
16. Gordon Hayward, 6-8, 210, SF, Soph., Butler: Love this kid. He may not be quite ready after two years, but he's a big-time shooter who puts it on the floor, can handle the ball and makes the right pass virtually every time. |
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Posts: 1903 (06/29/09 06:29 PM) |
Who loaned Jeff Goodman their Butler blue glasses? I'm a huge Hayward fan and think he may have a future in the NBA, but not after this upcoming season!
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Posts: 19 (06/29/09 06:30 PM) |
Crazy!
I doubt he'll go after next year, but if, for example, this team puts together a stellar run during his Junior season I could see him opting to enter the 2011 draft. With the three freshman now being juniors plus Matt as a senior, that seems like the perfect time for the boys to make a huge run. For selfish reasons I'd like to see him stay all four years, but if his stock is high at the end of the '10 or '11 season, I would definitely understand his desire to enter the draft early. |
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Posts: 890 (06/29/09 06:34 PM) |
Quite an honor to be included that high. I guess he really really must have impressed scouts during the USA tryouts. I think he has the potential and talent to
play in the NBA, but not next year.
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Posts: 960 (06/29/09 08:36 PM) |
Hey guys. I love Gordon, but there are some areas that he will probably need to improve. Of course, as he does it will be to the team's benefit and his.
IMO that it'll take a couple years plus. He hasn't really put the ball on the floor yet and drive the bucket. He hasn't shown much of a mid range
jumper. His defense is fine at this level, but at the next he may need some quicker feet. And he really hasn't shown the ability to shoot in traffic. Of
course, he has many other attributes. I think he is very underrated without the ball finding a space to shoot and receive the ball near the bucket and outside
and he has great court vision and knows how to dish. Potentially Shel might be as big a star and as desirable in the draft
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Doctor Tobias Funke |
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Posts: 265 (06/29/09 09:37 PM) |
NOOOOOOOOO!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!! NO! This is horrible news!
Hello, my name is Dr. Tobias Funke. I graduated with honors from Boston College and I did my post-graduate in psycho-linguistics at MIT. And this is
"You're A Bad, Bad, Man" from "Annie Get Your Gun."
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Duck on a Rock |
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Posts: 1905 (06/29/09 09:41 PM) |
Doctor Tobias Funke wrote: Horrible news that one of our athletes may have the potential to earn millions of dollars playing a sport and provide for his great grandchildren beyond his wildest imagination? Horrible that we may be witnessing the greatest player in Butler history in his infant stages? Horrible that we may finally have a guy with enough talent to push us beyond the Sweet 16 and beyond the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament? Horrible that this type of recognition could be given to such a modest guy that personifies "The Butler Way"? Yeah...horrible news. |
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Posts: 1818 (06/29/09 11:09 PM) |
Wouldn't be bad to have another rich Butler alum donate lots of cash to the athletic department, or most likely the basketball program - which would only
allow for our resources to help other programs with less fundraising ability. Or the recruiting angle of having a guy make the league.
Short term, not fun to lose a guy of his ability. Long term, good for the progress of the program. We can't be short sighted! |
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Posts: 892 (06/29/09 11:18 PM) |
Oh yeah, it's not horrible at all and a real honor for Gordon to be mentioned in the same article with some of that talent. I think the kid has the ability
to be a great pro prospect, I don't see it this year nor do I think that is in his short term future. But then again, when people begin throwing millions
at you, thoughts change. But, as far as long term for this program and the type of talent that will be attracted to Butler, which will lead to continued
success at a very high level, this can't hurt one bit.
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Posts: 1180 (06/30/09 05:42 AM) |
I don't get it. Some of you seem to believe he is a "great NBA prospect" yet for some reason think staying at Butler as long as possible would be
to his advantage. In the long run he would benefit far more from concentrating full time on his game and practicing/ playing against NBA talent. If he is sure
he is a mid first rounder he almost has to come out earlier rather than later.
Last Edited By: Halftime Floor Sweeper
06/30/09 05:44 AM.
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Doctor Tobias Funke |
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Posts: 266 (06/30/09 06:36 AM) |
Duck on a Rock wrote: Okay, I'm going to give you an encouragement sandwich with a little bit of constructive criticism inside. First of all, your wording for your reply to me was excellent. I can tell from this post that you definitely have some experience giving speeches and that you probably did a good job in those classes. Secondly, only your first and fourth questions relate to why this is horrible news. It would have been better for you to ask questions that actually relate to the fact that he's getting so much interest from the NBA. Yes, I would be happy for Gordon if he left for the NBA after his sophomore year, but it would still be pretty sad. Third (and last) you bring up very good points as to why this is, in fact, wonderful news. And those points must be taken into consideration. Mmmm, I feel like I make good sandwiches. I hope it tasted good.
Hello, my name is Dr. Tobias Funke. I graduated with honors from Boston College and I did my post-graduate in psycho-linguistics at MIT. And this is
"You're A Bad, Bad, Man" from "Annie Get Your Gun."
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Posts: 492 (06/30/09 06:46 AM) |
Tobias: Could you not recognize he was agreeing & amplifying?
Offense is fickle, but defense comes every night.
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Posts: 417 (06/30/09 07:07 AM) |
This would be great! If he does make the NBA, he should remember to donate to Butler!
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Posts: 162 (06/30/09 07:52 AM) |
he better be damn sure that he will be a first rounder if he leaves early. if he slips to the 2nd round like dejaun blair, sam yound and derrick brown there is
no guaranteed money and he could have lost out on priceless experience in the college game. while it is great to see his name being listed, this 2010 mock
draft has about as much credibility as the 2010 bracket projections.
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Butler Bulldog |
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Posts: 1731 (06/30/09 08:04 AM) |
This article is great recognition for Gordon and for the Butler program. This can only help with recruiting.
That said, the only way I see Gordon leaving after his sophomore year if he is a lottery pick. I could see Gordon go pro after Butler wins the NCAA championship in 2011 when Matt is a senior. |
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ButlerBulldogs08 |
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Posts: 61 (06/30/09 08:14 AM) |
Chad Ford has Gordon Ranked #54 in his latest 2010 top 100 board.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?playerId=19368&draftyear=2010 Draft Projection: Second round to undrafted Positives: Hayward helped Butler reach the NCAAs again this season. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton) Sharp shooter with deep range Versatile player who can score in a variety of ways Solid rebounder for a wing Great size for his position Adept at picking up steals Negatives: Needs to add a lot strength to his frame Isn't an elite athlete Lacks great lateral quickness Summary: Mar 18 Udpate: Hayward was one of the most underrated players in the country this season. He's not a slam dunk for the NBA, but a number of NBA scouts have been taking notice the past few weeks. He'll square off against one of the best scorers in the country in LSU's Marcus Thornton in the first round. If he can hang with an athletic team such as LSU, his stock will rise. |
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Posts: 1004 (06/30/09 08:22 AM) |
This dude likes Gordo more than Hayward4prez...
Anyways, here is my take. Gordon is definitely talented enough to play at the next level, furthermore he has a vast amount of untapped potential... However, even if Jeff Goodman realizes this, I think a lot of NBA scouts will still look over him (at least for another year or so.) We don't play a style or system that will allow Gordo to put up 30 ever night like Adam Morrison or Stephan Curry did. (And I think he'd have to in order to be picked this high.) The other situation that would allow Gordon to be selected this high, this early, would be a very stellar performance in the NCAA in which we win at least 3-4 games. If that happens, then yeah, I could see this making sense. I have no doubt he'll be playing there someday, but I'm saying it'll be in 2012.
YEAH!!!
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Posts: 1176 (06/30/09 09:30 AM) |
BUjet15 wrote: Don't you worry, I'm sure he'll get a letter weekly asking for donations and probably a feature in every Butler mag. |
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Duck on a Rock |
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Posts: 1907 (06/30/09 09:33 AM) |
jziemer wrote: Don't forget those cookie cutter phone calls! I screen any call that comes from 317-940-xxxx. If you're going to call me during dinner once a month, at least have the decency to leave a message! Butler donation calls are worse than neighborhood kids trying to sell you overpriced cookies for the school "fundraiser" (aka. pyramid scheme offered by private for-profit companies that give small kickbacks to schools). |
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Posts: 1181 (06/30/09 09:45 AM) |
"(aka. pyramid scheme offered by private for-profit companies that give small kickbacks to schools)." Yeah I heard they hold a gat to the head of
school administrators and force them to enter into the agreement or else.
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Duck on a Rock |
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Posts: 1908 (06/30/09 10:20 AM) |
Halftime Floor Sweeper wrote: I had not heard that. Remind me to send my kids to different school districts than the one that scarred you for life... |
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